Awesome find. Marking for future reference.
just n from bethel
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Can you say plagiarism?
by Mebaqqer2 inso i ran across this statement today in doing some research:.
take, for instance, the stories and legends regarding the origin of man.
although details vary, the belief that man was made from the dust of the earth is widespread.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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Right now, Dan, other than an early retirement on an island, my future is undefined. When I moved on from the JWs, I decided to live in the present for a while. I'm not going to worry about tomorrow anymore. Despite the JWs quoting that part of the sermon on the mount so often, we were always thinking, talking, worrying, preaching, debating, writing, praying - all about the future. We just had to know with certainity the future as we interpreted it from the bible. We looked down on people that "had no hope" and couldn't define their beliefs with a clear picture that could be rendered by an artist in a book with panda bears or pearly gates.
So I've come to embrace uncertainity at the moment. I enjoy knowing that everything that has ever happened in my lifetime has had either a natural or man-made cause. Good or Bad, there has been nothing recorded that gives any evidence of supernatural intervention. I'm not scared of demons. I'm not scared of fact-based knowledge that might conflict with mythological stories of goat herders. I welcome it. I welcome challenges to my presuppositions. I've studied the Judeo Christian belief systems. I actually find some forms of Judaism appealing. But I'm even open to exploring Zen or Tao - but unlikely to convert to any ism.
John Lennon said it best: Life is what happens while we're busy making other plans.
So, I'm just not making other plans anymore.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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As I mentioned earlier. Since I've moved on from JW land, I've tried to become more tolerant of other belief systems. But I also enjoy the freedom that I didn't use to have, to discuss beliefs, even semi-heatedly, with others that don't see things like I do.
All of us former JWs have to go in the best direction that suits us for our lives at this given time. It is my belief, that nobody here on this thread, not even JWs, truly desire to see children killed. I don't think anybody can really even comprehend the idea, as it continues to be explained that it is out of our understanding, even when it is mentioned in the Bible.
How could anybody even imagine such atrocities. And for what, being born in China? The good news is, that Xians like Dan and even JWs are not (hopefully never) part of a movement where they would ever actively particpate in killing non-believers. So Dan, JWs, and other extremist non-action believers will eventually grow old and die without ever seeing judgement day. They'll experience even more cognitive dissonance, perhaps changing belief systems many times over. They can believe that God will kill babies like he did in the bible and be just and loving - but they'll never actually see it, no matter how much they believe it. Eventually they'll get tired of their religious mind games and wander on home to reality.
The JWs have their blood policy which kills children right now. That should be stopped. If a person changes religious beliefs and stops believing it's ok to kill babies by refusing them blood in medical situations - then good for them. Even if they continue to believe that God and Jesus will kill the same babies later in the Big A, they aren't actually participating in the killing so no harm no foul. It's disheartening that a few former JWs cling to fundamentalist beliefs that make no sense and have no backing, but being able to openly talk with them, eat with them, say greetings to them, and be their friends, is stll worthwhile. Welcome to freedom.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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At least pearls can be seen, felt, and tested as to whether or not they really exist.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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BTW I meant the "proverbial" you - like anyone who uses scriptures to pass judgement. If you're not doing that, then it doesn't apply to you specifically. But it is what many many Xtians do - and I've personally done it when I was one, and I 've seen it done many times by so-called other Xtians.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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Hey if I'm being accused of trampling the message that Jesus/God/Whatever will be killing millions of children - that's fine with me. I plead guilty.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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I know - having the plethora of pickings of judgemental scriptures at one's disposal is great. You can call people pigs and feel you're justified in doing so. Then you can say, but I'm not judging. Oh Christianty - I miss it so.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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Thread getting silly now?- the whole idea of the OP is that the fundi Xian belief that God kills children and soon will destroy upwards of a billion is certainly silly.
Actually watching fundie Xtians defend the idea with such ridiculous assertions like: unbelievers not understanding the supposed hallucination/acid trip of a guy that claimed Jesus visited him on an island prison 1800 years ago - that's more than getting silly, it's borderline ludicrous.
But hey, maybe that's just me.
Anyway you cut it, you're making an excuse for God - and it usually comes down to "well, we can't understand his ways".
In the meantime, I gotta go let my kids out of the stocks. They were messing around in prayer time, so they're being taught a Godly lesson. Next time, I'll move up the level of discipline if they keep disrespecting family prayers at meals. I believe my son said this in his last prayer: "Dear God, Dad worked hard for all this money to buy us food, so to you, thanks for nothing." After the God-like punishment I metted out on him, I believe he'll be more respectful from now on.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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But you understand, cause you're god???
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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I know when I get super fed up, I finally have to move up from time-outs to the belt to the sword. Hey, I can only do so much, before they completely go wild. Gotta draw the line for their own good.